Ask The Nuwaupians, who are the 24 Elders in Malachi York's doctrine and where does the concept originate?

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Questions: Ask The Nuwaupians, who are the 24 Elders in Malachi York's doctrine and where does the concept originate?

Answer: They can only run to the bible or York's books on the 24 elders.

York gave numerous stories about the 24 elders, naming them, gave images of them and even including himself as one of them (19th).  The 24 elders first appear in Revelation 4 and are described as sitting around the throne in heaven. Their identity is not given.  There are seven references in Revelation to this group and what they're doing:

1.) Revelation 4:4, 10-11 - praising the Creator (in verse 4 they are just seen sitting)

2.) Revelation 5:5 - telling John that the Lamb was found worthy

3.) Revelation 5:8 - singing praise to the Redeemer

4.) Revelation 5:14 - worshipping the Father

5.) Revelation 7:13 - asking about the great multitude

6.) Revelation 11:16-17 - giving thanks that God is reigning on earth

7.) Revelation 14:3 - witnessing the song of the 144,000

8.) Revelation 19:4 - worshipping God that sat on the throne


York extracts from the above and creates a new narrative and claims Jesus of the bible, Djoser of third dynasty Egypt along with Imhotep, were part of this 24 elders.  Sumerian deities like Enki and Enlil were of the 24 elders and ultimately placing himself as the 19 elder Yaanuwn, a spiritual master. 



York's convoluted teachings of who the 24 elders were, are from his imaginations. York spent years denigrating the people of India or the "Hindu" religions, referring to them as "black devils" "straight haired Hindu demons" or descendants of the "200 fallen angels". This was a psychological tactic used by York to discourage his followers from reading about Hinduism or researching it as a whole.  When you investigate Indian culture, history and various forms of theology, you'll realize that York took elements from them and fabricated new idea's that Nuwaupians wouldn't be aware of because they weren't familiar with Hindu theology and cosmology. The truth of the matter is, the 24 elders that York speaks about is not necessarily from the book of Revelation, but can be traced back to Janism's "24 Tirthankaras".  








Tirthankaras are special Siddhas (liberated souls) who has attained omniscience and guides the other souls to save them from the cycles of repeated earth existences (rebirth). Tirthankaras are just ordinary man, born as human, but through their intense practice of kindness, equanimity and meditation, he attains the state of a Tirthankara.


Thus, a Tirthankar is an individual who destroys attachment with all the earthly things and relations, he frees himself absolutely from ignorance, he repays all his previous and this birth's dues of karmas, he detaches himself from all the good and bad, he attains absolute knowledge about present, past, and future, and becomes an omniscient in the process. He becomes a Sidha and frees himself from the cycle of birth and re-birth.


Tirthankaras revitalize the Jain Sangh (four-fold Jain Order) consisting of Sadhus (male saints), Sadhvis (female saints), Shravaks (male householders), and Shravikas (female householders). During every half time cycle, twenty-four persons like us rise to the level of Tirthankara. Every time-span consist of 12 Araah’s (era’s) 1 to 6 in first half cycle and 6 to 1 in second half cycle. Jainism states time has no beginning or end. It moves like the wheel of a cart. There have been an infinite number of time cycles before our present era and there will be an infinite number of time cycles after this age. At the beginning of the twenty first century, we were approximately 2,530 years into the fifth era of the present half cycle i.e. Avasarpini time-span.


The 24 Tirthankaras are considered to be the creator of Jain religion. They are divine elements of Jainism. They have attained all the achievement of ultimate nature including the ultimate knowledge after making vigorous efforts. Their principles are for betterment and welfare of others. Their path is to provide total fearless life and that of non-violence and to distribute love and friendship. Their vision of life is very wide and they have no insistence for anything. Their way of life is for giving up possessive passion and being free from the karmas.


After achieving enlightenment, a Tirthankara shows others the path to enlightenment. The Tirthankara's religious teachings form the Jain canons. The inner knowledge of all Tirthankaras is perfect and identical in every respect, for the teachings of one Tirthankara do not contradict those of another. However, the degree of elaboration varies according to the spiritual advancement and purity of humans during that period. The higher the spiritual advancement and purity of mind, the lower the elaboration required.


At the end of his human life-span, a Tirthankara achieves liberation ('moksha' or 'nirvana'), ending the cycle of infinite births and deaths.


At the end of his human life-span, a Tirthankara achieves liberation ('moksha' or 'nirvana'), ending the cycle of infinite births and deaths.


York has never mentioned the 24 Tirthankara in his doctrine, yet we see how he used the Jain concept to shape his fabricated 24 elders or (spiritual masters).