Ask The Nuwaupians, why is there an overt contradiction and fallacy in the Nuwaupian doctrine regarding the ancient Egyptian (P) and (B) ?

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Question: Ask The Nuwaupians, why is there an overt contradiction and fallacy in the Nuwaupian doctrine regarding the ancient Egyptian (P) and (B) ?

Answer: They'll panic if this is asked in public.

In the Nuwaupian doctrine, Malachi York taught the following.

"You must understand that there were no "P" in the ancient Semetic or Hieroglyphic alphabet. That was added by the Greeks.

So every place you see a P it was a B...." 

-Malachio York: The Sacred Records of Neter: Aaferti Atum-Re (the Black Book) pg. 460

 

There is a completely opposite and contradictory statement made in another book by York where he states:

"You must understand that there were no "B" in the ancient Semetic or Hieroglyphic alphabet. That was added by the Greeks. So every place you see a B it was a P...." 

-The Egiptian Names 'Pa Tama-Reye Renaat' pg. 46

 

Although this is clearly a contradiction and should have sparked study into the issue by Nuwaupians right away, the larger issue is related to the Hieroglyphics themselves.  Both statements are vague or not very clear due to the fact that you have to assume its speaking about the phonetic sound even though it mentions "alphabet" as oppose to "language".  There are three possible implications:

1) The statements imply that there is no literal "P" or "B" looking symbol in the script of the language or…

2) The statements imply that there is no "P" or "B" sound represented in the spoken language at all or…

3) The statements imply that there is no "P" or "B" sound represented as a symbol in the script of the language.

We can quickly rule out #1 by reading the full context around those statements in their respective book and see that its not fitting to the context.  So we are left with #2 - The phonetic sound being present in the language and #3 - The sound being represented by a symbol in the script of the language.

Dealing with #2 - The phonetic sound:

The question one must ask: "What is a "P" and "B" sound?"

- The "P" is a voiceless bilabial plosive. A sound being voiced or voiceless is dependent on whether or not is it produced by the vibration of the vocal cords. Bilabial simply refers to the fact that the sound is articulated with both lips. Plosive refers to the obstruction of airflow in the vocal tract to produce the sound. 

- The "B" is a voiced bilabial plosive. The difference between the "P" and "B" is the fact that the vocal cords are used.  

 

The next question one must ask is: "Does the The phonetic sounds of "P" and/or "B" exist in Ancient Egyptian?"  The answer is evident in the following words:

Bes

Bast

Ptah

Apep

Bennu

Ba

Pa

Neb

Bastet

Hapy

Geb

Khepri

Sobek

Anpu

Anubu

Nekhbet

Apis

Bat

Tabijet

Sopdet

Wepwawet

 

 

Dealing with #3 - The phonetic sound being represented by a symbol in the script of the language: The question one must ask: "What are the symbols used in the hieroglyph script to represent the "P" and "B" sounds?"

- The Ancient Egyptian language and script contained both of these sounds and symbol representation. The "B" was represented by the symbol of a "Leg and Foot." The "P" was represented by what some call a "Stool of Reed Matting" and others call "A Door." Whether the symbols is actually a "stool of reed matting" or "door" is a matter of another discussion and outside the scope of this topic.

 "P"      

         "B"  

 

Next, one must see one of the words above written in the script in order to see that the sounds are represented by the said symbols.

1) The word Ptah contains the stool of reed matting/door denoting "P" (Gardiner Q3), a raised bread loaf denoting "T" (Gardiner X1), and twisted flax denoting "H" (Gardiner V28).

2) The word Sobek contains folded cloth denoting "S" (Gardiner S29), leg foot denoting "B" (Gardiner D58), and basket denoting "K" (Gardiner V31).

Here are various resources provided that can be used to investigate and research:

To learn about what the "P" and "B" sounds are related to speech, one must consult the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) of the IPA (International Phonetic Association)

EXAMPLE: 


 

Publications on the Egyptian language:

 

-How to Read Egyptian Hieroglyphs: A Step-by-Step Guide to Teach Yourself, Revised Edition by Mark Collier, Bill Manley, Richard Parkinson

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520239490

 

-Egyptian Hieroglyphics: How to Read and Write Them by Stephane Rossini

http://www.amazon.com/Egyptian-Hieroglyphics-Read-Write-Them/dp/0486260135/ref=pd_sim_b_1

-An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary : With an Index of English Words, King List, and Geographical List with Indexes, List of Hieroglyphic Characters, Coptic and Semitic Alphabets (Vol 1 & 2) by E. A. Wallis Budge

http://www.amazon.com/Egyptian-Hieroglyphic-Dictionary-Geographical-Characters/dp/0486236153/ref=pd_sim_b_2

 

-Egyptian Language: Easy Lessons in Egyptian Hieroglyphics by Sir E. A. Wallis Budge 

http://www.amazon.com/Egyptian-Language-Easy-Lessons-Hieroglyphics/dp/0486213943/ref=pd_sim_b_3

-Middle Egyptian: An Introduction to the Language and Culture of Hieroglyphs by James P. Allen

http://www.amazon.com/Middle-Egyptian-Introduction-Language-Hieroglyphs/dp/0521741440/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302636291&sr=1-7

 

-Mdw Dtr: Divine Speech: A Historiographical Reflection of African Deep Thought from the Time of the Pharaohs to the Present by Jacob H. Carruthers

http://www.amazon.com/Mdw-Dtr-Historiographical-Reflection-Pharaohs/dp/0907015948/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1302636442&sr=1-1

 

-The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality by Cheikh Anta Diop, Mercer Cook

http://www.amazon.com/African-Origin-Civilization-Myth-Reality/dp/1556520727/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1

 

-Civilization or Barbarism: An Authentic Anthropology by Cheikh Anta Diop

http://www.amazon.com/Civilization-Barbarism-Cheikh-Anta-Diop/dp/1556520484/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2

 

 

ANCIENT EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHICS WEBSITES:

 

http://www.uponreflection.co.uk/hieroglyphics/hieroglyphic_alphabet.htm

 

 

http://www.pbs.org/empires/egypt/special/popup/alphabet.html

 

  

http://www.kidzone.ws/cultures/egypt/hieroglyph.htm

 

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